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Grenfell Inquiry day four: firefighters defend response to fire

Lawyers acting for firefighting bodies defended the emergency response to the Grenfell Tower fire today, at the public inquiry into the disaster.

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A round-up of day four at the Grenfell Inquiry evidence hearings #ukhousing #grenfellinquiry

Key points

  • London Fire Brigade (LFB) statement questions whether “simultaneous evacuation” would ever have been a workable strategy on the night
  • Lawyers ask inquiry to consider whether fire services should start to assume refurbished tower blocks are “inherently unsafe”
  • Inquiry will give “very careful consideration” to the possibility of issuing urgent recommendations before Sir Martin Moore-Bick’s phase one report is published
  • The Metropolitan Police has said it is investigating the LFB’s use of the ‘stay put’ policy during the fire

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Day four

Representatives for the Fire Brigades Union (FBU), the Fire Officers Association (FOA) and the LFB presented their verbal opening statements on the fourth day of evidence hearings at the Grenfell Inquiry this morning.

Soon after proceedings finished for the day, the BBC reported that the Metropolitan Police is investigating the LFB’s use of the ‘stay put’ police during the fire.

Speaking on behalf of LFB, Stephen Walsh said Grenfell was a “singular event” and that the scale of safety failures at the tower caused a “unique and unprecedented challenge” for firefighters.

He said that – unlike buildings with similar cladding in other parts of the world – Grenfell Tower was not designed to support an evacuation strategy in case of a fire.

Mr Walsh told the inquiry it is a “fundamental misunderstanding” to assume that the stay put policy at Grenfell could have been changed to simultaneous evacuation “at the stroke of a fire incident commander”.

Numerous factors, including the lack of a working fire lift or of an effective system to communicate the new message to residents effectively, would have made this difficult, he said.

The inquiry should question whether simultaneous evacuation was ever a “practical option” at Grenfell, Mr Walsh added.

He said stay put “is not a creation of the fire service” but a strategy they are supposed to apply when fighting fires in high rises which were built to contain fire, and that the inquiry should “urgently consider” whether refurbishments of buildings like Grenfell have undermined their integrity.

And he questioned whether it was reasonable and in the public interest to “expect fire services to develop operational policy on the presumption that buildings such as Grenfell Tower are inherently unsafe”.

He also called on the inquiry to recommend changes to fire safety regulations, including requiring the retrofitting of sprinklers in tower blocks.

FBU lawyer, Martin Seaward, said the refurbishment of Grenfell had left it “a highly combustible death trap” and said that criticisms of the emergency response to the fire “should not be exploited by those who created the danger”.

He said that neither Kensington and Chelsea Council nor Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation seemed to have planned for an evacuation strategy at Grenfell if compartmentation was breached, and that the inquiry should question whether there was also failure “at a national level” to prepare for this kind of event.

The inquiry was told that the FBU “reserves its position” as to when the stay put advice should have been changed because of the “difficulties and dangers” of evacuating the block.

Louis Browne, speaking for the FOA, said the inquiry should avoid judging firefighters’ actions on the night of the fire “with the benefit of hindsight”.

The tower’s stair and lobbies “did not create, nor were they designed to create” a safe environment for residents to evacuate the building while firefighters attempted to tackle the blaze, he added.

Mr Seaward and Mr Browne both strongly denied that racism played any part in firefighters’ actions on the night of the fire.

On Tuesday, Imran Khan, acting for a group of people bereaved by the fire and survivors, asked if there was “unconscious or some conscious racism” in the way firefighters responded to the fire.

Concluding proceedings today, Richard Millett QC, speaking on behalf of the inquiry, said the team will “give very careful consideration” to the possibility of publishing urgent recommendations before its chair, Sir Martin Moore-Bick, releases his final phase one report.

The inquiry continues.

Proceedings are due to resume with presentations from the inquiry experts on 18 June.

The Grenfell Tower Inquiry

The Grenfell Tower Inquiry

Closing statements

 

Day 85: victims' lawyers attack the fire brigade

 

Further expert evidence

Including some additional evidence from emergency call handlers, bereaved and relatives

 

Day 84: further evidence from survivors and relatives

Day 83: swift evacuation of tower possible if residents alerted

Day 82: initial fire was extinguished but then returned to the flat

Day 81: overheating fridge-freezer most likely cause of fire

Day 80: fire doors installed did not match product tested

Day 79: resident advised to stay put despite fire in flat

Day 78: insulation and cladding material below required standard

Day 77: molten plastic spread blaze down tower

Day 76: 'stay put' should be dropped when fire spreads across floors

 

Other witness evidence

Police, ambulance, gas suppliers, council, TMO and call room operators give evidence

 

Day 75: call room operators give evidence

Day 74: further evidence from TMO officers

Day 73: TMO boss failed to pass information to firefighters

Day 72: fire finally extinguished when gas switched off

Day 71: further questions over stay put advice

Day 70: the police evidence

 

The bereaved, survivors and relatives’ evidence

 

Day 69: video shows smoke billowing through fire door

Day 68: KCTMO removed self closing mechanism and never replaced it

Day 67: gaps in cladding fixed with duct tape

Day 66: 'don't fix broken system with a sticking plaster'

Day 65: survivor dragged disabled man down nine floors to safety

Day 64: KCTMO 'did not replace broken fire door'

Day 63: foam insulation inside cladding 'exposed' says survivor

Day 62: father gives harrowing account of son's death

Day 61: council’s management organisation slammed for faulty electrics

Day 60: stay put advice ‘led to deaths’, residents say

Day 59: residents describe problems with new windows

Day 58: survivor describes how daughter saved his life

Day 57: firefighter evidence ‘a slap in the face’, says survivor

Day 56: relations with contractor were ‘toxic’

Day 55: resident 'never happy' with stay-put advice

Day 54: tenant gives evidence about housing association

Day 53: stay put advice 'felt like trap'

Day 52: resident saved by son's phone call

 

The firefighters’ evidence

 

Day 51: firefighter feared encouraging residents to jump

Day 50: the LFB commissioner

Day 49: fire chief reveals frustration over lack of building plans

Day 48: internal fire spread 'bigger story' than cladding

Day 47: fire officer considered evacuating crews over building collapse fears

Day 46: 'we were improvising' senior firefighter admits

Day 45: firefighter urged for abandonment of 'stay put' policy

Day 44: firefighter recalls radio signal difficulties

Day 43: call hander 'uncomfortable' with insisting residents stay put

Day 42: residents only told to leave if they called fire brigade back

Day 41: breathing equipment delay 'hampered rescues on upper floors'

Day 40: chiefs told firefighters to abandon policy

Day 39: firefighters reveal dramatic rescue of children

Day 38: firefighters issue aplogies to families

Day 37: council 'unable to provide tower plans'

Day 36: QC defends inquiry process

Day 35: Javid would welcome interim recommendations

Day 34: water from hose 'too weak' to reach the flames

Day 33: 'oh my god, we've been telling people to stay put'

Day 32: further fire fighter describes lack of equipment and low water pressure

Day 31: 'incredibly difficult' task of recording information outlined

Day 30: struggle to maintain control over rescue operation described

Day 29: fire service 'overwhelmed' by survival guidance calls

Day 28: 'the building beat us'

Day 27: firefighters 'forced to abandon plans to reach roof'

Day 26: poor signage hindered rescue efforts

Day 25: water pressure left firefighting equipment 'like garden hose'

Day 24: decision to abandon 'stay put' explored

Day 23: TV images 'could have assissted' rescue effort

Day 22: description of hectic scenes in the control centre

Day 21: account from the fire service 'nerve centre'

Day 20: firefighter describes 'huge volume' of calls from trapped residents

Day 19: firefighter 'given no training on cladding fires'

Day 18: evacuation would have been 'huge catastrophe'

Day 17: firefighters describe access and lift issues

Day 16: scenes of carnage likened to 9/11

Day 15: firefighters recount trauma of survival guidance calls

Day 14: firefighters describe spread of blaze

Day 13: firefighters recall radio difficulties

Day 12: "it was like a war zone"

Day 11: questions raised over fire fighters' radios

Day 10: watch manager emotional under questioning

Day nine: lead firefighter 'not trained in stay put policy'

 

The expert reports: authors give evidence to inquiry

 

Day eight: where the fire started

Day seven: what was in the cladding?

Day six: the cause and spread of the fire

Day five: expert highlights key issues

Day four: firefighters defend response to fire

Day three: council and contractors appear for the first time

Day two: lawyers for the survivors make their case

Day one: expert evidence released on cladding and stay put

 

The commemoration hearings

 

30 May: Grenfell Council 'recognised it should not house disabled victim above four storeys'

29 May: Anger on day six of the Grenfell Inquiry

25 May: Grenfell families 'forced to live in chimney with stay put policy'

24 May: Grenfell family complained about father being housed on 17th floor

23 May: Tributes to children on third day of Grenfell hearings

22 May: Emotions run high as Grenfell bereaved shown footage of the tower burning

21 May: Grenfell victims share tributes as inquiry opens

 

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